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  June 14, 2010 3:02 p.m. alleykat New Reader

  Just WTF? Words fail me. Z3-Miata-Stang

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  June 14, 2010 3:03 p.m. DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork

  is it weird to be baffled, yet aroused at the same time?

  We are flashin trannys... wait that came out wrong

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  June 14, 2010 3:06 p.m. Raze HalfDork

  Um, WOW!

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  June 14, 2010 3:13 p.m. ReverendDexter Dork

  I like. It's everything wrong with the Miata, Z3, and Mustang... fixed.

  --There is no turd more polished than the Ford Mustang--

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  June 14, 2010 3:15 p.m. Carson Dork

  1994 SVO? Does he mean '84 SVO? or '94 SVT?

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  June 14, 2010 3:23 p.m. mtn SuperDork

  I'm confused. I want it.

  there’s a lot of debate on this subject—about what kind of car handles best. Some say a front-engined car; some say a rear-engined car. I say a rented car.

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  June 14, 2010 3:40 p.m. klipless Reader

  All hail the Ziatatang!

  Do want, but not for 20k.

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  June 14, 2010 3:50 p.m. kreb Dork

  It looks like he's done a nice job of answering a question that nobody but he asked.

  It is better to wear out than to rust out.

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  June 14, 2010 4:06 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

  Oh boy. Do not know if want.

  Slightly related... yesterday somewhere in Ohio, i saw a silver Z3 with a hardtop. It was SEXY.

  1992 Celica GT (FSP), 1993 Ford Escort GT (HS), 1990 Mazda MX6 GT Turbo (13.27@118mph)

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  June 14, 2010 4:45 p.m. Cone_Junky Reader

  So that's how you stand out at the local auto-x, win in a Miata that isn't a Miata...

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  June 14, 2010 5:11 p.m. 914Driver SuperDork

  I'd go $17,000, but $20k is just too much.

  BMW -- You don't need a hibachi to cook rice.

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  June 14, 2010 5:26 p.m. Nitroracer Dork

  Amazingly it doesn't look that bad. Still doesn't mean I want it though.

  1968 Fairlane 500 / 1998 Camaro Z/28

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  June 14, 2010 6:39 p.m. M2Pilot Reader

  Only a short distance from here. It may be a good thing that I'm finally getting a parking pad poured & my driveway re-paved next week.

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  June 14, 2010 6:41 p.m. Raze HalfDork

  M2Pilot wrote: Only a short distance from here. It may be a good thing that I'm finally getting a parking pad poured & my driveway re-paved next week.

  cancel the order, procure this car, park on front lawn, sit in folding chair drinking a miller light, enjoy

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  June 14, 2010 7:47 p.m. JoeTR6 New Reader

  I sold a nice M Coupe for $17k. For the same money I'd rather have that back along with my 90 Miata.

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  June 14, 2010 8:01 p.m. gamby SuperDork

  Carson wrote: 1994 SVO? Does he mean '84 SVO? or '94 SVT?

  Odd mixup, for sure. I wonder if he's stuck in the dark ages and calls SVT "SVO". Maybe he carries a "Mastercharge", too.

  20k seems a bit insane. Sure, a lot of work went into it, but expecting to recoup is is crazy. $10k seems way more realistic.

  I mean, none of the three cars it's composed of are worth $20k on their own...

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  June 14, 2010 10:03 p.m. mistanfo SuperDork

  So, it's a Monster Miata with a body kit. Whoopdedoo. I'd maybe consider it if it had an LSx with a T-56 behind it, and it then be worth 20K as a used vehicle. As it is, I can find a '90 miata for less than 2K (especially if it needs drivetrain work), a 5.0 Mustang and Tbird rear end for less than 5K. That leaves 13K for a Monster kit and BMW body kit. I am guessing that he paid a shop LOTS of money to install the kit, and that's where he's getting his 20K figure from.

  That being said, I've considered doing an LSx conversion in combination with an Italia kit.

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  June 14, 2010 10:28 p.m. 3Door4G Reader

  It's pretty well put together.

  20k is an insane price though. Good lord.

  I wouldn't pay more than 10 if there wasn't some kind of warranty. Who know what could go wrong. That's like asking for the problems of three used cars all rolled into one.

  Clean cars can be found at http://rabidclean.blogspot.com

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  June 15, 2010 9:01 a.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

  3Door4G wrote: It's pretty well put together. 20k is an insane price though. Good lord. I wouldn't pay more than 10 if there wasn't some kind of warranty. Who know what could go wrong. That's like asking for the problems of three used cars all rolled into one.

  It's really only two cars...

  The BMW part is just a body kit and nothing else.

  1992 Celica GT (FSP), 1993 Ford Escort GT (HS), 1990 Mazda MX6 GT Turbo (13.27@118mph)

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  June 15, 2010 9:02 a.m. Sofa King Reader

  I have never understood the Z3 body kit for the Miata. It doesn't make the Mazda a BMW and the Z3 isn't that expensive that if you really wanted one you couldn't find a good used one. And it doesn't improve the Miata.

  That being said, I have about $20K into a Monster Miata, and I didn't even buy the kit. If you had told me up front that I was going to spend that much, I wouldn't have built it, but it works well and I love it. But,I wouldn't expect to be able to get $20K back out of it. Eventhough I can easily show where the money was spent on the parts.

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  June 15, 2010 9:07 a.m. Wally SuperDork

  I suppose it's better than a Miata drive train in a Z3 made to look like a Mustang

  "You should never point a loaded gun at anyone. This is not a hard and fast rule, however. A hard and fast rule is that you should never, ever, point an unloaded gun at anyone." P.J. O'Rourke

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  June 15, 2010 9:57 a.m. paulmpetrun New Reader

  Sofa King wrote: That being said, I have about $20K into a Monster Miata, and I didn't even buy the kit.

  Sofa King, is that in the otter you got from me? If so HOLLLYYYYY Shnikies! Hey you gonna bring that thing down to Mid-Ohio August 14/15. I'll be racing another miata and would love to see my old car. Plus I want to pick your brain about the v8 swap. Once I blow up the race engine I was thinking of going v8, but maybe not if its gonna cost that much.

  As for the Ziatang, I never understood rebodying a decent car just to look like another abundantly available decent car! Seems like a waist of time and money to me. To each there own I guess

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  June 15, 2010 11:44 a.m. Sofa King Reader

  Yeah Paul, I am almost embarassed to say that it is! Complete with "Otter" license plates!

  It could have been done much cheaper, but once the donor parts turned out to be crap, I decided not to waste good fabrication on bad parts. I didn't have the energy at the time to hunt down another donor and try to stay on Challenge budget. That energy is back and I have another V8 Miata in the works, and so far it looks like I will be under budget.

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  June 15, 2010 11:46 a.m. Matt B Reader

  Sofa King wrote: I have never understood the Z3 body kit for the Miata. It doesn't make the Mazda a BMW and the Z3 isn't that expensive that if you really wanted one you couldn't find a good used one. And it doesn't improve the Miata.

  This. Is exactly my reaction. It's like taking a 240sx and trying to make it look like an FC RX7, or whatever.

  I'm sure it's fun to drive though . . .

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