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  Aug. 18, 2009 9:17 a.m. bludroptop Dork

  Now on e-bay? The sticker in the rear window looks like a match.
  

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170371655310&amp...

  Credit where due - saw this on Bring-a-Trailer

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  Aug. 18, 2009 9:19 a.m. Rusty_Rabbit84 HalfDork

  i LOVE that car!!!!

  We are flashin trannys... wait that came out wrong

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  Aug. 18, 2009 11:11 a.m. jstein77 HalfDork

  Cool, but a converted GT is no match for a real GT-R.

  Jerry in Melbourne

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  Aug. 18, 2009 12:18 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork

  how is it any different?

  if it looks the same, and has the same motor, and all the same trim, how is the R different from a converted GT?

  "there is no horrible way to win, there is only winning" -Jean Pierre Sarti

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  Aug. 18, 2009 12:21 p.m. John Brown SuperDork

  So I should be able to pay $400.00 for an E30 M3 because they are no different than a modded POS 1986 318, right?

  Internationally known as The Brown Stig

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  Aug. 18, 2009 12:45 p.m. dj06482 New Reader

  maroon92 wrote: how is it any different? if it looks the same, and has the same motor, and all the same trim, how is the R different from a converted GT?

  From the article, I believe it had a non-GT-R motor and that some of the trim didn't seem to be GT-R material. The gist of the article was that the owner was disappointed with the car, as he bought it believing it was a GT-R and later discovered it was more of a GT-R clone.

  Car looks great, but the price is out of my league!

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  Aug. 18, 2009 12:47 p.m. Tom Heath Marketing / Club Coordinator

  A clone would be good enough for me. If it were a genuine GT-R, I'd be afraid to enjoy it anyway.

  I tried drag racing, but kept blowing the apex for turn two...

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  Aug. 18, 2009 12:57 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork

  I stared at the pictures of that car in the magazine for a long time. It's very cool.

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  Aug. 18, 2009 3:20 p.m. chapel New Reader

  not the same car. this has black rear fender flares. the one in the mag had body color.

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  Aug. 18, 2009 3:21 p.m. chapel New Reader

  also, I believe that sticker is a bay area Vintage Nissan Owner's club sticker. I've seen it before.

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  Aug. 18, 2009 3:30 p.m. maroon92 SuperDork

  John Brown said: So I should be able to pay $400.00 for an E30 M3 because they are no different than a modded POS 1986 318, right?

  First of all, 10 G is not GT-R money...GT-Rs are alot more than that.

  And Second of all, if the 318 was an EXACT clone of an E30 M3, I would certainly be satisfied in driving it around, but I would not pay original E30 M3 money for it, in the same way that a GT-R EXACT clone would satisfy me but I would not pay original GT-R money for it.

  (I agree with Tom Heath)

  "there is no horrible way to win, there is only winning" -Jean Pierre Sarti

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  Aug. 18, 2009 3:49 p.m. Keith SuperDork

  Very cool car, but the story kinda sounded like a cautionary tale about buying cars on the internets

  Bringing in a 25-year-old car is a doddle. It shouldn't be a challenge to bring in another should you miss this one.

  Square left in 50 caution ocean!

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  Aug. 18, 2009 4:03 p.m. bludroptop Dork

  Upon further review (where have I heard that before?) it appears there are significant differences in details between the e-bay car and the one in the magazine.

  The front fender flares are the most obvious example.

  We can play the Skyline version of Where's Waldo if you want to find more. There are too many little details that don't match.

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  Aug. 18, 2009 4:20 p.m. John Brown SuperDork

  Three words:

  Cash for Clunkers ;)

  Internationally known as The Brown Stig

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  Aug. 18, 2009 6:05 p.m. ReverendDexter HalfDork

  John Brown wrote: Three words: Cash for Clunkers ;)

  Thank God you can't turn in anything pre-1984.

  '98 Cobra; '96 Bronco; '77 Celica GT Liftback; '89 Camry AllTrac Project

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  Aug. 19, 2009 7:46 p.m. ae86andkp61 Reader

  The GT-R came with the Nissan S20, which was a very cool (and very low volume/rare) engine. 2-liter twincam inline six, crossflow head with hemispherical combustion chambers, and a three carbs in stock form. They were rated at 160hp stock and would spin to 7000rpm with ease. Race versions were tuned to over 200hp and sound unbelievable Seeing and hearing one in person was one of the highlights of my trip to Japan in 2001.

  They make an L26 or L28 look a bit heavy, lazy, and not particularly high tech. The good news with the L series is that parts are actually available, and that owning, fixing, or tuning one doesn't automatically require selling one's body parts or first born children, unlike the S20.

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  Aug. 20, 2009 5:20 a.m. dj06482 New Reader

  I think it's the same car that's in the October issue of GRM. The differences are all things that could have easily be swapped out/painted/etc. before the car was put up for sale. It's not unheard of for an owner to take out some of the more expensive items and sell those separately from the car.

  Even in the article, it was mentioned that the car came from Japan with 14" wheels and guess what it's being sold with - 14s. Seats, steering wheel, painted strut tower brace, painted flares, etc. are not hard to do...

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