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  Dec. 29, 2009 8:34 p.m. Gearheadotaku HalfDork

  Oppurtunity to pruchase a brand new G5 GT for way cheap. Car is a 5speed of course,. GT comes with 4 wheel disc, nicer trim, 17" wheels, somewhat better suspension. (stiffer spings and shocks I guess) Pontiac has a $6500 rebate on all its cars for a short time. With other discounts, trade, etc we're down to the 10k range... While he car has little to no pefomance potential, it looks decent and should provide many, many years of cheap DD. Of course I don't NEED a new car, but with a deal like this.... I could add on some Cobalt SS suspension goodies. How do you kill the stabilty management and Traction control on these? Unplug the Yaw sensor?

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  Dec. 29, 2009 8:44 p.m. 06HHR New Reader

  Other than resale, i don't see why not. Other than the trim the car is a Cobalt, possibly has the old non-turbo/supercharged Cobalt SS spec suspension bits on it already.

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  Dec. 29, 2009 9:32 p.m. pinchvalve SuperDork

  What's a Pontiac?

  "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." -Mahatma Gandhi.

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  Dec. 29, 2009 9:45 p.m. Nitroracer Dork

  What would a pontiac matrix run with all the rebates and such? The top of the line one has a revvy little toyota four cylinder and a six speed, or at least the last generation did.

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  Dec. 29, 2009 10:16 p.m. jrw1621 Dork

  Pass.
  I just went over to www.pontiac.com and I see that the GT starts at $21K and after $6.5K off you are at $14.5. Maybe another $500 off so $14.
  The rest you say comes from trade in. You would likely get the same trade in at any dealer, on any car.

  So, at $14k, what else can you buy and do you like that something else more?
  

  It is an interesting contradiction that you make mentioning the GT has better suspension but then want to swap out that suspension for Cobalt SS suspension.

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  Dec. 29, 2009 10:28 p.m. oldsaw HalfDork

  There are VERY big corporate incentives for dealers to clear the lots of Pontiacs and Saturns, like $7K per car. Parts and maintenance shouldn't be a problem for a few years, so if one can find a car worth keeping this is a good time to be shopping......... At least until January 4, 2010.

  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34621016/ns/business-autos/

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  Dec. 30, 2009 12:29 p.m. Gearheadotaku HalfDork

  Thanks for the input everyone.

  Vibe? No. Toyota + 4 doors = just no...

  Suspension? the GT claims "performance suspension" It should be better than the base car, but I was hoping SS parts would be a further step up.

  Price. I get the GM employee price for further discounting.

  Old enough to know better, too young too care!

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  Dec. 30, 2009 12:33 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

  Nitroracer wrote: What would a pontiac matrix run with all the rebates and such? The top of the line one has a revvy little toyota four cylinder and a six speed, or at least the last generation did.

  Current one has a 2.4 litre camry motor.

  1992 Celica GT (FSP), 1993 Ford Escort GT (HS), 1990 Mazda MX6 GT Turbo (13.27@118mph)

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  Dec. 30, 2009 12:48 p.m. Cotton HalfDork

  Gearheadotaku wrote: Thanks for the input everyone. Vibe? No. Toyota + 4 doors = just no... Suspension? the GT claims "performance suspension" It should be better than the base car, but I was hoping SS parts would be a further step up. Price. I get the GM employee price for further discounting.

  I'd say go for it. Sounds like a great deal.

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  Dec. 30, 2009 12:49 p.m. Cotton HalfDork

  pinchvalve wrote: What's a Pontiac?

  What's an MR2? I've actually had a couple and am still pissed Toyota killed it.

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  Dec. 30, 2009 1:15 p.m. John Brown SuperDork

  I would buy another Cobalt base, I say jump all over a G5 GT.

  Internationally known as The Brown Stig

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  Dec. 30, 2009 1:34 p.m. nocones Reader

  I'd get a G5 XFE for probably 4K less than you'd get a GT. You're going into knowing that it's just going to be a DD type car so ultimate fun really isn't your goal. If your going to be swaping SS suspension parts you don't really care what you start with, and the 2.2L cobalt I drove was surprisingly peppy so HP from the base engine isn't really to bad. And you can't beat 37 MPG rating for DD use.
  

  The Vibe is a pretty nice car though. If you could get one of those for near that price I'd consider it. What can you do on a V6 G8?

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  Dec. 30, 2009 2:05 p.m. skruffy Dork

  For $10k I'd go for it. While I'm not a big fan of the cobalt or it's twin, at that price point for a brand new car it really doesn't matter.

  Unplugging a wheel speed sensor will usually disable all (ABS, traction control, stability control, etc...) of the driving aids on a car. You'll have to deal with a check engine, abs, and maybe another error light and some cars loose the speedo.

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  Dec. 30, 2009 6:57 p.m. DirtyBird222 Dork

  Performance Potential? Have you heard how much boost those stock ecotecs can hold? I have contemplated getting rid of my Stang for a SC Cobalt SS to have a smaller payment, more MPGs, and just as quick of a car, just powering the wrong wheels.

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  Dec. 30, 2009 7:01 p.m. ignorant SuperDork

  I've heard good things about the 'balts, but I firmly believe all small cars should be hatches.

  walterj said "I would have everything from the knee down replaced with peg if I were in your shoes."

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  Dec. 30, 2009 7:10 p.m. garyp New Reader

  Sounds like a good deal to me. And I really think the Pontiac is a bit prettier than the Chevy version...The schnoz and wheels are much nicer.

  The motor is the same as in the base Solstice/Sky. There are aftermarket turbos and superchargers for them that yeild performance on par with, or even better than, the factory 2.0 turbo. With some dertimination and a little imagination I'm sure you can make something work in the G5 engine bay. Even NA there's potential for 200+ hp. If you want G5 performance stuff check out these guys: http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/newIndex.php

  GM usually makes their stability control systems fully defeatable. Should be an obvious button somewhere on the dash or center console.

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  Dec. 30, 2009 7:13 p.m. mndsm Reader

  I still don't trust the cavbalts, but that isn't a bad price.

  Go fast or go broke.

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