Forums » Grassroots Motorsports » My new HPDE toy! Brake pad suggestions?
  • Klayfish

    June 27, 2010 7:25 p.m. Klayfish New Reader

    I found my low cost track toy I've been searching for and got it home yesterday. Huge thanks to people on this forum for giving me advice...and the link to the ad for the car. It was an absolute steal!!! I picked it up for $800...including a ton of spares....extra tires, calipers, a spare tranny, on and on.... here's the car...

    By the way, that's my "tow vehicle" in the background of the first picture. I had the car shipped right to a local race shop to be checked out. The car had been pretty much sitting since the end of the 2007 race season. It had been started and moved, but not really run. Great news is that it's in fantastic shape overall. Just typical stuff you'd expect after not being driven much. The tires on the car are dry rotting, so they have to go. Needs front rotors and the front pads are crumbling. The hoses and belts looked really good.

    What low cost brake pads would you recommend to put on the car? In all my spare parts, there's a box full of brake pads that are green in color. Not sure what they are (EBC greens????) Anyway, I should probably get a fresh set anyhow. I'm only running a few HPDE events per year, so I don't need a professional race pad. Just something that will stand up well to a few track days. The car weighs about 2250 without driver. Hawks? EBC Yellow? A long time ago, I had a car that used PF-Zs. Still any good?

    Again, thanks for all the help and can't wait to hit the track with it!!!

  • belteshazzar

    June 27, 2010 7:38 p.m. belteshazzar SuperDork

    I've had poor experiences with ebc. Hawks have treated me right though.

    good score btw.

    spending money I don't have to buy parts I don't need to impress people I don't know

  • motomoron

    June 27, 2010 8:17 p.m. motomoron Reader

    My wife had an FX16 GTS when we first got together. What an awesome car. Sadly, I used it to push the rear beam axle out the other side of the Taurus wagon full of high school kids (on their phones) I totally unavoidably T-boned when they U-turned directly in front of me on a dark downhill street in a thunderstorm. Sad. Missed that car...

    I'd say get some Toyo RA1 tires and Hawk HT10 pads. Performance Friction makes a great pad that seems to wear like iron and stops like a wicked bastard - but they cost a freakin' fortune, and as I've only used 'em on the M3 I've no idea how they are on a light car.

  • SVTF

    June 27, 2010 8:37 p.m. SVTF New Reader

    Nitto NT01 tires are great, they take abuse and don't require shaving. For brakes on my car (2500 lbs) the Carbotech XP10 pads solved all my brake issues on the track. Don't bother with HPS or HP+; go ahead and get it right the first time with some real pads.

  • Tyler H

    June 27, 2010 8:51 p.m. Tyler H Dork

    I like the Carbotechs. A few years back, I ran XP+ pads on my street/hpde/autox MR2.

  • BoxheadTim

    June 27, 2010 10:08 p.m. BoxheadTim Dork

    I'd definitely forget about EBC pads - I've never met a set I liked.

    Hawk I like, I had them on my various HDPE Miatas and on my FD RX7.

  • nickel_dime

    June 28, 2010 7:55 a.m. nickel_dime Dork

    I'm glad you specified your tow vehicle is in the first picture - I thought you meant the big wheel.

    Nice score.

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  • Raze

    June 28, 2010 8:02 a.m. Raze HalfDork

    Congrats! Glad you pulled the trigger on your quest for cheap speed, that looks like an ideal candidate, spares are always fun with any car, sometimes there's gold in them there piles o' parts. Good pick, good price, way to go!

  • 93celicaGT2

    June 28, 2010 8:18 a.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

    I guess i'll be the odd one out and say that i've loved the EBC pads that i've used on any car i've owned.

    EBC Yellows should be PLENTY for that car. I use them on the Celica and they offer some downright painful stopping power, and i've never gotten them to fade. (Well, i've had fluid fade in the past, but that's been fixed)

    The Greens that you likely have... Meh. Decent street pad that seems to last forever even though they dust like crazy, but nothing REAL special. I put 40k miles on a set, and they still had 75% left on the Celica. It was strange.

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  • Matt B

    June 28, 2010 8:18 a.m. Matt B Reader

    MK1 MR2 triangles FTW!

    Nice grab. I've seen these going for ridiculously cheap lately and I've been awful tempted. They've had me rethinking an EF hatch as a second beater.

  • Klayfish

    June 28, 2010 11:50 a.m. Klayfish New Reader

    Yeah, I got about 6 spare tires with the car, and that included another set of MK1 triangles. I owned several MK1s, so I love the wheels.

    The race shop where I brought the car is a serious race team...travel all over the country. Their shop is awesome to check out....race ready Lotus Exige, C6 Vettes, CTS-V, Solstice, Trans-Am, etc... Anyway, when the shop owner said "what an awesome track toy", I was quite pleased. He runs Carbotechs in his cars, but they seem a good bit more expensive than the others. For my needs, not sure if it's worth it??

  • ReverendDexter

    June 28, 2010 12:52 p.m. ReverendDexter Dork

    I've always went with Porterfields if I knew I was gonna be getting hot and heavy on the brakes.

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  • Jay_W

    June 28, 2010 1:14 p.m. Jay_W HalfDork

    Porterfield is the Miata of the what-brakepad-should-I-get world.

  • drmike

    June 28, 2010 3:19 p.m. drmike New Reader

    Another vote for Porterfield. They sell Raybestos ST-43 pads that fit the Outlaw calipers on my '03 Mini S, and I love those pads for the track.

  • wbjones

    June 28, 2010 3:42 p.m. wbjones Dork

    Carbotech XP-10's (as an earlier poster posted...)

    understeer: when you hit the wall with the front end,,, oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back end.... horsepower: how hard you hit that wall.... torque: how far you drag that wall

  • unevolved

    June 28, 2010 3:53 p.m. unevolved HalfDork

    I'll throw my vote to the Carbotechs, either XP-8 or XP10. I know a lot of SM guys around here run XP10s on the front, and XP8s on the rear since they can't adjust brake bias. You may want to give them (Carbotech) a call directly, they're pretty smart.

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  • Travis_K

    June 28, 2010 4:12 p.m. Travis_K Dork

    I like carbotech pads. My dad used EBC greens with no problem, except in his case the life was very poor, so now he has carbotechs on his car too.

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