What an embarrassment. Owning a Ferrari does not make you a Formula One driver. Its amazing how many of these "Ferrari crash" videos are on youtube.
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May 8, 2011 5:55 p.m. TR8owner Reader
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May 8, 2011 6:14 p.m. JtspellS Reader
I think its the red, turns a rich shiny happy person in to a reckless shiny happy person
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May 8, 2011 6:25 p.m. carguy123 SuperDork
So are you complaining that people who drive Ferrari's are driving them like they're meant to be driven?
Would there be more Ferrari crashes than lets say, Mazda MX5 crashes?
"mobilito ergo sum" I drive therefore I am!
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May 8, 2011 6:36 p.m. fritzsch New Reader
In reply to carguy123:
I would say being rich doesnt make you automatically able to handle a supercar. which i think is what tr8owner is getting at. they are meant to be driven hard by people who know how to drive them hard.
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May 8, 2011 7:53 p.m. TR8owner Reader
In reply to carguy123:
"So are you complaining that people who drive Ferrari's are driving them like they're meant to be driven? "
I didn't realize they were meant to be crashed.
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May 8, 2011 7:58 p.m. Rufledt HalfDork
Hang on, didn't Clarkson say something about how Enzo openly overcharged the wealthy status-seekers buying his road cars to fund his racing team? If thats true (and not a hallucination of my over-caffinated brain) then wouldn't Ferraris be made to rip off rich people wanting a status symbol for the sake of funding the F1 team?
In all seriousness, though, I agree with you guys.
OTOH, the other guys didn't crash, just the guy who was obviously trying to show off by owning the tackiest car of the bunch."A dog oversteers, which is more fun than an understeering hyeena, so you want a mazda mx5 because it's rear wheel drive."
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May 8, 2011 8:08 p.m. JoeyM SuperDork
Rufledt wrote: OTOH, the other guys didn't crash, just the guy who was obviously trying to show off by owning ]the tackiest car of the bunch.
They all looked the same - or at least very similar - to me.
914Driver: "Except for us {GRMers} who the hell would build a 1932 Japanese car?"
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May 8, 2011 8:16 p.m. FlightService HalfDork
"More money than skill" describes me perfectly, and I have no money, so that tells you my skill
LOL
“Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.” Leonardo da Vinci
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May 8, 2011 9:40 p.m. Teh E36 M3 HalfDork
Wasn't that an SW20 MR2?
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May 8, 2011 9:56 p.m. TR8owner Reader
In reply to Teh E36 M3:
In all fairness its not just Ferrari owners.
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May 8, 2011 10:47 p.m. friedgreencorrado SuperDork
Hate that stuff on the street. I have much more respect for someone who balls one up at a track day than I have for someone who bashes it up on the street. I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way, but I consider them a little bit less of a shiny happy person if they do it at the track than on the street.
How can it be a midlife crisis, when I've driven sportscars my entire life?
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May 9, 2011 1:45 a.m. MrBenjamonkey HalfDork
I would never own most Ferraris, partly because they seem to make things overcomplicated and expensive for no reason, and partly because I wouldn't want people to associate me with the crowd that comes along with them.
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May 9, 2011 1:54 a.m. Joshua Reader
There is a direct correlation between the amount of money you have and your driving ability.
Cold. Hard. Fact.
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May 9, 2011 3:37 a.m. Travis_K SuperDork
I saw a beater Ferrari 308 parked on the street this past Saturday (faded, mismatched door, etc). It was interesting to see one that someone actually uses.
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May 9, 2011 5:44 a.m. njansenv HalfDork
So, if I bought a nice air cooled Porsche, or an Elise, some "e-thugs" would give me a hard time because I'm driving a car that I like but may not have the mad skills to take it to 11/10ths?
Shrug.
I'd still buy the car I want and can afford.
Put another way: do you give someone a hard time when you see them in a minivan that isn't stuffed with people?
Fact is, people revel in Ferrari/exotic car crashes even more than "other car" crashes. -
May 9, 2011 5:53 a.m. Wally SuperDork
njansenv wrote: So, if I bought a nice air cooled Porsche, or an Elise, some "e-thugs" would give me a hard time because I'm driving a car that I like but may not have the mad skills to take it to 11/10ths?
I don't think that is what they meant, The problem comes when you go 11/10ths through the neighborhood anyway and put it into a schoolyard and an orphanage.
Admit it, You've all got a case of Sheenus envy
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May 9, 2011 6:46 a.m. Maroon92 SuperDork
These guys really ought to know better.
Underground Racing Lambo crash.
XBL GamerTag: bcbrownell Racing is the process of turning money into noise.
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May 9, 2011 6:58 a.m. Luke SuperDork
That's the perfect resolution to such blatant douchebaggery. Nobody gets hurt, Mr.1300hp breaks his car, looks like a prat in front of a bunch of people, then mauled by youtube commenters. Hopefully won't do it again.
"Just as a proverb says, one should always ny escort prepare for a rainy day." - GRM canoe
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May 9, 2011 8:16 a.m. Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
Joshua wrote: There is a direct correlation between the amount of money you have and your driving ability. Cold. Hard. Fact.
Most professional racing drivers were rich enough to race cars so I'm not really sure which way you were going with that.
Per capita... I bet Ferrari owners are no worse than the average performance car buyer... it's just that nobody takes a picture of a wrecked Suzuki Swift and post pictures to Facebook with captions like "Rich kid can't drive".
Lord of drivel and harbinger of Floundering
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May 9, 2011 8:53 a.m. Duke SuperDork
Joshua wrote: There is a direct correlation between the amount of money you have and your driving ability. Cold. Hard. Fact.
Ummmm, I'm going to say that there is zero correlation between money and driving ability. Not a direct correlation, not an inverse correlation - zero correlation.
Unless my irony sensor is broken?
Junior Brown is my hero.
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May 9, 2011 8:59 a.m. tuna55 SuperDork
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
Joshua wrote: There is a direct correlation between the amount of money you have and your driving ability. Cold. Hard. Fact.
Most professional racing drivers were rich enough to race cars so I'm not really sure which way you were going with that.
Per capita... I bet Ferrari owners are no worse than the average performance car buyer... it's just that nobody takes a picture of a wrecked Suzuki Swift and post pictures to Facebook with captions like "Rich kid can't drive".
Yes, this.
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May 9, 2011 9:03 a.m. TR8owner Reader
I agree there is absolutely zero correlation between your income and driving ability, but its obvious that some of the well heeled bozos on these youtube crash videos are in way over their heads. They should first learn how to drive a slower car fast before making asses of themselves behind the wheel of a Ferrari or other exotic.
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May 9, 2011 9:17 a.m. captainzib HalfDork
404 Crash Not Found.
All I saw was a spin.
-Ali
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May 9, 2011 9:19 a.m. Javelin SuperDork
JoeyM wrote:
Rufledt wrote: OTOH, the other guys didn't crash, just the guy who was obviously trying to show off by owning ]the tackiest car of the bunch.
They all looked the same - or at least very similar - to me.
All of the other Ferrari's were stock appearing. The one that wrecked had body kit mods galore on it.
Michael Pinto - 73 AMC Javelin 360 / GoKart / 86 944 Sport / 01 Grand Prix GT / 06 Mazda5 M5
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May 9, 2011 9:43 a.m. ransom Reader
I think what chafes about some of these supercar incidents as opposed to some dork curbing a Paseo is that the irresponsibility is combined with waste and yes, probably a smattering of jealousy.
If you can afford to drive a Ferrari and only drive it at 6/10ths if that's where your skill level is, fine. The problems start arising when you drive at 8/10ths and only have the skill for 7/10ths, and the fallout can affect other people. I guess that's where it starts to bug me a little. If you only have the skill to tootle along, what were you doing before you had Ferrari money? Why did you go out and buy a Ferrari if you had so little interest in driving up to this point?
I guess that part is kinda like what keeps me from picking up a Gretsch Anniversary in smoke green. If I made it a priority, I could buy one these days. But apart from having to give up other purchases, one of the main arguments against it in my head is that I'm just not that good a guitarist, and I would be a bit embarrassed to have it. I may yet do it, and it'd probably bring me some joy, but even if I play it badly, I'm not going to destroy it or hurt anybody...
Man, that was rambley... If you can afford a 1300hp Lambo, and it'll bring you joy, go for it. But there's something sad and irritating about an object of such beauty being treated in a manner that suggests the owner doesn't really appreciate what they have, either in terms of respecting or enjoying its raison d'etre...
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." - Jan L. A. van de Snepscheut
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