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  July 29, 2010 1:40 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

  So apparently, this is a MKiv Supra with a 1fzfe (Land Cruiser 4.5 litre i6), a gigantic turbo, and programmable AWD.

  The good stuff starts here:
  http://www.3si.org/forum/f1/awd-supra-1fz-engine-98mm-turbo-467181/index2.html

  The "build thread" is here:
  http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=545570

  In the build thread, they mention that the turbo that you see in the pictures is "Too small for our 2500hp goal. Will be going to a 114mm turbo later."

  Discuss.

  And here's a picture to get you started:

  
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  July 29, 2010 1:44 p.m. Brennan New Reader

  Ummm.. Wow

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  July 29, 2010 1:49 p.m. triumph5 Reader

  Other than drag racing, I think that turbo would give new definition to "turbo lag."

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  July 29, 2010 1:50 p.m. Tom Heath Webmaster

  So when it's done, what will they do with it?

  I tried drag racing, but kept blowing the apex for turn 2... Xbox Live gamertag— GRM Tom

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  July 29, 2010 1:50 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

  triumph5 wrote: Other than drag racing, I think that turbo would give new definition to "turbo lag."

  They're actually spooling it on the transbrake by 3500rpms... Less laggy than most big turbo supras, i would imagine.

  Keep in mind, this isn't a 2jz, and i heard the word "stroked" thrown around a few times. Quick google search shows that 4.7 and 4.8 litre stroker kits exist for this motor, which combined with a built head and a propensity for flow that Toyota inline 6s have, i could see this thing actually having a large powerband.

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  July 29, 2010 1:51 p.m. triumph5 Reader

  In reply to Tom Heath: That's what I was thinking.

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  July 29, 2010 1:51 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

  Tom Heath wrote: So when it's done, what will they do with it?

  That's a great question... i think they'll be dragging it, but no real class in mind, since it's not legal for... well, ANYTHING.

  It's one of those answers to a question nobody asked, but one of those instances where the project as awhole is awe-inspiring, if a bit useless and VERY SCARY.

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  July 29, 2010 2:26 p.m. Raze HalfDork

  No.

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  July 29, 2010 2:31 p.m. Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork

  Tom Heath wrote: So when it's done, what will they do with it?

  I'd imagine they will sweep up a pile of chunks... and sell a rolling chassis.

  walterj, playing with the 'preferred username' feature

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  July 29, 2010 2:38 p.m. TJ SuperDork

  Funny, "too small" were the first words that popped into my head when I looked at the turbo too.

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  July 29, 2010 4:38 p.m. cwh SuperDork

  Too small for a Caterpillar earthmover, maybe.

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  July 29, 2010 5:05 p.m. 2002maniac HalfDork

  The man paying to have this built must have the smallest penis in the world. I can see no other purpose.

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  July 29, 2010 5:11 p.m. wbjones Dork

  no no mahn when it come up vtech yo it be showing you some bad yo

  understeer: when you hit the wall with the front end,,, oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back end.... horsepower: how hard you hit that wall.... torque: how far you drag that wall

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  July 29, 2010 5:48 p.m. Vigo HalfDork

  Ridiculous. I approve.

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  July 29, 2010 6:09 p.m. aircooled SuperDork

  You have to wonder how the bottom of the crank bearings will survive. At 2500hp that crank is REALLY going to want to exit the bottom of the engine.

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  July 29, 2010 7:19 p.m. Racedreamer New Reader

  I mean the pictures look real cool. And all that stuff looks like it goes fast. Vids would be great.

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  July 29, 2010 7:34 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

  I think this answers a question nobody asked...

  How to make a supra more expensive but not much faster and a LOT less reliable

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  July 29, 2010 7:56 p.m. grimmelshanks Reader

  aircooled wrote: You have to wonder how the bottom of the crank bearings will survive. At 2500hp that crank is REALLY going to want to exit the bottom of the engine.

  10 bolt mains

  pinion shaft? uh-oh

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  July 29, 2010 7:58 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

  well, look at it this way.. the remaining supras just got more expensive

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  July 29, 2010 10:04 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

  mad_machine wrote: I think this answers a question nobody asked... How to make a supra more expensive but not much faster and a LOT less reliable

  The reliable part, i'll give you...

  But if you see the REALLY powerful supras get on it, you'll see that traction isn't their strong point. I at least applaud this effort to fix that problem. I'm not sure if i would have pushed the envelope with ANOTHER 1000hp, but hey. To each his own.

  I'm a firm believer of sledgehammers over scalpels and subscribe to the school of "There is never too much power," so this appeals to me on a very primal level.

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  July 29, 2010 10:10 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

  aircooled wrote: You have to wonder how the bottom of the crank bearings will survive. At 2500hp that crank is REALLY going to want to exit the bottom of the engine.

  Good question. It's a more robust engine than the ricer's wet dream 2jz, though, and built iterations of those have seen almost 2000hp.

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  July 29, 2010 10:27 p.m. 93celicaGT2 SuperDork

  Here's a video of another one of their AWD projects...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmmLNlrufKM

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  July 29, 2010 10:43 p.m. Kia_racer HalfDork

  All I could think of when I saw the pictures was what Bill Cosby said on his 200MPH album.

  "Its got a hickey. You know what a hickey is, that's where the supercargers live."

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  July 29, 2010 10:43 p.m. mad_machine SuperDork

  interesting project with the soarer/lexus...

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  July 29, 2010 10:46 p.m. irish44j HalfDork

  93celicaGT2 wrote: Here's a video of another one of their AWD projects... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmmLNlrufKM

  am I the only one that wonders why videos of these mega-power cars are always of the car on a dyno, rather than actually doing anything?

  It's like people build them just to "say" that they have a 1000hp car or whatever, and then just trailer them to dyno days and car shows....

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