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  March 14, 2011 5:59 p.m. plance1 Dork

  Geez, every time I try to look at something on their site the page goes haywire and shuts down....my computer is relatively new, less than a year so what gives????????? Sorry if Jalopnik has been covered previously.

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  March 14, 2011 6:07 p.m. RexSeven Dork

  It has, but don't worry. It is the general Internet consensus that Gawker's redesign sucks floppy donkey d$@&.

  The "oh, E36 M3!" handle is above and to the right of your head. In case of an emergency, stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

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  March 14, 2011 6:29 p.m. JoeyM SuperDork

  Well said.

  I also liked Tim Baxter's (???) comment that it was "the new coke of website designs"

  914Driver: "Except for us {GRMers} who the hell would build a 1932 Japanese car?"

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  March 14, 2011 6:55 p.m. huge-O-chavez SuperDork

  JoeyM wrote: Well said. I also liked Tim Baxter's (???) comment that it was "the new coke of website designs"

  not to be a pain, but that was me.. :-)

  clubber lang is my friend

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  March 14, 2011 6:59 p.m. JoeyM SuperDork

  huge-O-chavez wrote:

  JoeyM wrote: Well said. I also liked Tim Baxter's (???) comment that it was "the new coke of website designs"

  not to be a pain, but that was me.. :-)

  In that case, kudos to you....one of the best analogies I've heard for gawker's failure. I'm glad I remembered to express my doubt about the origin of the phrasing.

  914Driver: "Except for us {GRMers} who the hell would build a 1932 Japanese car?"

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  March 14, 2011 7:24 p.m. SyntheticBlinkerFluid Reader

  I hardly go there anymore. I've only been there for 8 months and it's drastically changed in that small amount of time.

  The only person thats worth reading is the weekend guy Tom Joslin.

  They don't even do the Answer of the Day anymore, which was one thing I always looked forward too. They only do the Question now and a lot of people are bitching on there about it.

  It's disappointing. I'm on GRM more because of it (not that it's a bad thing).

  '95 Jeep Cherokee / '80 Mazda Rx-7 / '68 Corvair Monza Coupe

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  March 14, 2011 7:56 p.m. Maroon92 SuperDork

  I used to visit daily. I have not visited Jalopnik since the redesign. It is aweful. I also "un-liked" them on facebook. Maybe they will catch on eventually.

  XBL GamerTag: bcbrownell Racing is the process of turning money into noise.

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  March 14, 2011 8:15 p.m. plance1 Dork

  I'm going to have to remove the link from my facebook page...other than occassionally going on a Ford Explorer forum, every now and then I go over to Turbo Bricks but that is about it for me as far as car sites.

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  March 14, 2011 8:33 p.m. plance1 Dork

  how the heck do I "defriend" them from my facebook page?????

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  March 14, 2011 8:36 p.m. SyntheticBlinkerFluid Reader

  You need to unlike them, I believe you have to go either into your profile or account to unlike a page.

  '95 Jeep Cherokee / '80 Mazda Rx-7 / '68 Corvair Monza Coupe

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  March 14, 2011 9:03 p.m. Tyler H Dork

  You can't browse their site on an iPad, without being redirected to the mobile version, which sucks pygmy-szed donkey nuts. I like thetruthaboutcars.com.

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  March 14, 2011 9:04 p.m. RexSeven Dork

  Many of the Jalopnik writers have defected to hooniverse.com

  The "oh, E36 M3!" handle is above and to the right of your head. In case of an emergency, stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

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  March 14, 2011 9:54 p.m. Tim Baxter SuperDork

  Yeah, I can't take credit for the new coke comment. I just said they suck. Badly. A good contender for worst redesign ever.

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  March 15, 2011 1:04 a.m. unevolved Dork

  I used to be a pretty regular commenter on there, but that site has gone down the E36 M3ter in a big way.

  Texas A&M Racing

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  March 15, 2011 1:23 a.m. friedgreencorrado SuperDork

  Tim Baxter wrote: Yeah, I can't take credit for the new coke comment. I just said they suck. Badly. A good contender for worst redesign ever.

  Tim, you must not have visited motorsport.com lately..

  How can it be a midlife crisis, when I've driven sportscars my entire life?

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  March 15, 2011 6:51 a.m. Tim Baxter SuperDork

  I haven't, nor do I have any frame of reference for what it was before, but at first glance it's not THAT bad. Not my taste, but it seems workable.

  Gawker's redesign is up there with Digg's implosion: a redo so universally reviled, so awful by any standard, so not-just-ugly-but-unusable, so bad it makes you wonder if they're TRYING to go out of business.

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  March 15, 2011 7:36 a.m. Sultan Reader

  So weird. I was just thinking about this as I loaded up GRM. I really liked that site but now I never go because the redesign is so crappy.

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  March 15, 2011 9:02 a.m. Strizzo SuperDork

  Only way I visit now is from direct links from twitter, otherwise it's nigh impossible to get around the site

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  March 15, 2011 9:59 a.m. ArthurDent Reader

  You can get the old style with new content here - http://ca.jalopnik.com/

  Still ... the content isn't nearly as good as it used to. I don't bother with it anymore. Shame - they had a really good thing going for a while.

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  March 16, 2011 12:29 a.m. friedgreencorrado SuperDork

  Tim Baxter wrote: I haven't, nor do I have any frame of reference for what it was before, but at first glance it's not THAT bad. Not my taste, but it seems workable. Gawker's redesign is up there with Digg's implosion: a redo so universally reviled, so awful by any standard, so not-just-ugly-but-unusable, so bad it makes you wonder if they're TRYING to go out of business.

  RE: motorsport.com..

  Used to be white background with grey "piping", with red hyperlinks to the full articles, and black text. All current news stories were on the main page, listed by catagory (no menus required on the main page). Pix were fewer & smaller on the homepage, but there were hyperlinks to the photo albums containing that particular photo as well (and once in the album, you could click on the photo and see the larger image).
  

  Just discovered tonight that they've added an "old version" button..perhaps now you can compare them?
  

  http://old.motorsport.com/

  Really, I'm just curious about what you think, since you're a professional at it.

  And as far as the Gawker redesign of Jalopnik goes, tonight's the first time I've been able to load it. When it first happened (we're on Vista here, since the only GRM-priced computer we found had it pre-installed) the Microsoft "nagware" wouldn't even load the page.

  How can it be a midlife crisis, when I've driven sportscars my entire life?

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  March 16, 2011 7:02 p.m. Tim Baxter SuperDork

  Fried, comparing the before and after, I think it's hit and miss. I think the old one is pretty bad. It's dated, slow, appears broken, and is fairly difficult to navigate around.

  The new one looks better and is much faster, but... I think they've over-emphasized social media stuff, especially out of context. You don't want people to leave your site to go follow you on twitter or FB, you want them to post your content to FB and twitter to bring more folks BACK to the site.

  I think it doesn't play nice on small monitors.

  I think too much content is hidden away behind some menu or another, and the designer was way too excited by what he could do gadget-wise. Present the content first, then worry bout the frills.

  It's still difficult to navigate, just in a new and different way.

  I hate the photo/article scroller thingy. Annoying and in the way.

  One definition of good design is that it bridges the gap between the business needs and desires and the visitor needs and desires. That one doesn't. It was just somebody trying to make something "cool". Neither the business nor the visitor is getting what they want.

  And the story pages look like an afterthought. The photos have no sense of flow, and it's obvious whoever did it had no sense of typography whatsoever.

  Still like it better than the old one, but I think they missed the mark pretty badly. I think it'll feel really dated really soon, and I think they'll really, really wonder why they downplayed the content so much, since they are ostensibly a content company.

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  March 16, 2011 7:13 p.m. JamesMcD New Reader

  I quit going there over 8 months ago due to the frequent goofball lefty BS awkwardly shoe-horned into the site's articles, as well as the disgusting 4chan-influenced culture of the commentariat.

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  March 16, 2011 7:39 p.m. Lugnut HalfDork

  I read all of the Gawker site that I read (Jalopnik, Lifehacker, and io9) in my Google Reader. I very, very rarely actually go to the site.

  I am a King Prawn.

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  March 16, 2011 9:01 p.m. ShadowSix Reader

  I realized when Judge Phil left that he was really the only thing I really loved about the site. When I wander back over there now I'm shocked at how dull, illiterate, and automotively under-informed the commentariat has become.

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  March 16, 2011 9:43 p.m. Osterkraut SuperDork

  JamesMcD wrote: I quit going there over 8 months ago due to the frequent goofball lefty BS awkwardly shoe-horned into the site's articles, as well as the disgusting 4chan-influenced culture of the commentariat.

  I got banned for making a joke about the chubby woman who owned the cupcake cart a few months ago...dirty hippies.

  "Great car and the engine spins like a little baby kitten."

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