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  Oct. 20, 2011 7:47 a.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

  This is different.

  Is it stock?

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-Buick-LeSabre-Turbo-3-8L-V6-Sweet-Ride-Black-E...

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  Oct. 20, 2011 7:49 a.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

  I guess it is

  http://www.beforeblack.net/lesabre.htm

  http://forums.aaca.org/f115/1978-lesabre-turbo-coupe-production-numbers-184494.html

  Cornering is like bringing a woman to climax. Jackie Stewart

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  Oct. 20, 2011 7:50 a.m. bravenrace SuperDork

  Yeah, it is. They also made regals with this or a similar setup. They were carbureted and had a lot of problems. I worked on many of these in the early 80's.

  I Wonder How Many Romans Didn't See The Fall Coming...

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  Oct. 20, 2011 8:18 a.m. pinchvalve SuperDork

  What do you suppose the curb weight on that sucker might be? 5000#?

  "Don't Sweat the Petty Things." Yes, and Don't Pet the Sweaty Things.

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  Oct. 20, 2011 8:44 a.m. integraguy SuperDork

  pinchvalve...

  This was the first year of the first (and only?) round of downsizing for GM's full-size cars. This Le Sabre weighs, according to references, about 3500 lbs.

  I have seen one or two of these over the years, I think you were limited to one of 4 colors when they were new: black, silver, burgundy, and maybe white. ALL had the same burgundy velour upholstery.

  Because Buick could never quite make up it's mind whether it was a performance car builder, or a near luxury car builder, there were "performance" models of the Le Sabre up through the mid to late '80s. There was even a "performance" version of the Electra.

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  Oct. 20, 2011 8:50 a.m. Raze SuperDork

  mmmmmm T-type Regals

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  Oct. 20, 2011 8:54 a.m. Joe Gearin Associate Publisher

  These LeSabres also came with the 402 cid engine. A friend of mine had one in High School and it was a pretty nice car. It wasn't a sports car, but it handled ok for such a big boat. The big V8 would be better suited to this beast than the turbo V6 I'd think.

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  Oct. 20, 2011 9:03 a.m. bravenrace SuperDork

  Joe Gearin wrote: These LeSabres also came with the 402 cid engine. A friend of mine had one in High School and it was a pretty nice car. It wasn't a sports car, but it handled ok for such a big boat. The big V8 would be better suited to this beast than the turbo V6 I'd think.

  That was actually a 403.

  I Wonder How Many Romans Didn't See The Fall Coming...

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  Oct. 20, 2011 9:59 a.m. pilotbraden Dork

  I have not seen one in years. There were 3 on the street that I grew up on. Of course it is Flint, home of Buick.

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  Oct. 20, 2011 11:19 a.m. Joe Gearin Associate Publisher

  bravenrace wrote:

  Joe Gearin wrote: These LeSabres also came with the 402 cid engine. A friend of mine had one in High School and it was a pretty nice car. It wasn't a sports car, but it handled ok for such a big boat. The big V8 would be better suited to this beast than the turbo V6 I'd think.

  That was actually a 403.

  401....402.....403.....whatever works

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  Oct. 20, 2011 1:40 p.m. sergio New Reader

  For real thrills get an 89 Turbo Trans Am. 3.8L turbo Buick V6, 12" 2 piston PBR front brakes, rear discs, LSD, 150+ mph Here's a run at the Texas Mile.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKuTVy2_2qQ

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  Oct. 20, 2011 6:11 p.m. TIGMOTORSPORTS Reader

  The 403 was an Oldsmobile motor. Was also placed in a lot of 79 Trans Ams.

  The 89 Turbo Trans Am - GTA - would love one. I saw a couple at Barrett Jackson at this years spring auction in Florida.

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  Oct. 20, 2011 6:21 p.m. Keith SuperDork

  pinchvalve wrote: What do you suppose the curb weight on that sucker might be? 5000#?

  integraguy wrote: pinchvalve... This was the first year of the first (and only?) round of downsizing for GM's full-size cars. This Le Sabre weighs, according to references, about 3500 lbs.

  So, less than a new Mustang or Camaro...

  Square left in 50 caution ocean!

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  Oct. 20, 2011 6:44 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork

  So, less than a new Mustang or Camaro.

  That would be just about every car, wouldn't it? :)

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  Oct. 20, 2011 6:45 p.m. novaderrik Dork

  i've only ever seen 2 of those in person- and one of them had an 84 or 85 T Type SFI motor and trans swapped into it.

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  Oct. 20, 2011 9:49 p.m. plance1 Dork

  I don't care what kind of car it is, I would not buy a car from someone who's so lazy that they couldn't move some of the crap off the rear seat before photographing it...and what's with that plastic covering the front seats by the way?

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  Oct. 20, 2011 10:06 p.m. novaderrik Dork

  out of curiosity- what does a GNX have to do with a turbocharged 78 LeSabre?

  the GNX was a very limited edition version of the 87 Grand National that was made as sort of a last hurrah for GM midsize rwd performance cars.

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  Oct. 20, 2011 10:06 p.m. modernbeat Dork

  Keith wrote:

  pinchvalve wrote: What do you suppose the curb weight on that sucker might be? 5000#?

  integraguy wrote: pinchvalve... This was the first year of the first (and only?) round of downsizing for GM's full-size cars. This Le Sabre weighs, according to references, about 3500 lbs.

  So, less than a new Mustang or Camaro...

  Mid sixties 2-ton trucks weigh less than modern Mustangs and Camaros.

  
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  Oct. 20, 2011 10:11 p.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

  novaderrik wrote: out of curiosity- what does a GNX have to do with a turbocharged 78 LeSabre? the GNX was a very limited edition version of the 87 Grand National that was made as sort of a last hurrah for GM midsize rwd performance cars.

  Gee I don't know, maybe because it is a RWD 3.8 turbo GM coupe and a direct descendant to the GNX

  http://www.beforeblack.net/abouttur.htm

  I haz lurned sumfin

  Cornering is like bringing a woman to climax. Jackie Stewart

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  Oct. 20, 2011 10:27 p.m. novaderrik Dork

  aussiesmg wrote:

  novaderrik wrote: out of curiosity- what does a GNX have to do with a turbocharged 78 LeSabre? the GNX was a very limited edition version of the 87 Grand National that was made as sort of a last hurrah for GM midsize rwd performance cars.

  Gee I don't know, maybe because it is a RWD 3.8 turbo GM coupe and a direct descendant to the GNX

  http://www.beforeblack.net/abouttur.htm

  I haz lurned sumfin

  not really.. it's a full size car that had the carbureted 3.8 and also had a Buick badge on it, but is otherwise totally different car than the mid size Regal that would eventually get made into the GNX.

  the turbocharged 1980 Chevy Monte Carlo is more of an ancestor to the GNX than the LeSabre was since it's built on the same chassis and is pretty much the same car with different styling.

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  Oct. 20, 2011 11:27 p.m. SyntheticBlinkerFluid Dork

  modernbeat wrote:

  Keith wrote:

  pinchvalve wrote: What do you suppose the curb weight on that sucker might be? 5000#?

  integraguy wrote: pinchvalve... This was the first year of the first (and only?) round of downsizing for GM's full-size cars. This Le Sabre weighs, according to references, about 3500 lbs.

  So, less than a new Mustang or Camaro...

  Mid sixties 2-ton trucks weigh less than modern Mustangs and Camaros.

  

  That Chevy is Awesome. It's like a life size Tonka Truck.

  '95 Jeep Cherokee / '80 Mazda Rx-7 / '68 Corvair Monza Coupe

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  Oct. 21, 2011 6:41 p.m. TIGMOTORSPORTS Reader

  In reply to SyntheticBlinkerFluid:

  That truck needs a Duramax/Allison conversion

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  Oct. 21, 2011 6:54 p.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

  novaderrik wrote:

  aussiesmg wrote:

  novaderrik wrote: out of curiosity- what does a GNX have to do with a turbocharged 78 LeSabre? the GNX was a very limited edition version of the 87 Grand National that was made as sort of a last hurrah for GM midsize rwd performance cars.

  Gee I don't know, maybe because it is a RWD 3.8 turbo GM coupe and a direct descendant to the GNX

  http://www.beforeblack.net/abouttur.htm

  I haz lurned sumfin

  not really.. it's a full size car that had the carbureted 3.8 and also had a Buick badge on it, but is otherwise totally different car than the mid size Regal that would eventually get made into the GNX.

  the turbocharged 1980 Chevy Monte Carlo is more of an ancestor to the GNX than the LeSabre was since it's built on the same chassis and is pretty much the same car with different styling.

  1. It's a 78 of course it is a carbed car.
     

  2. As an example, are you saying an R32 GTR is not the descendant to the R34 GTR. it is a completely different car, made by the same company, and the same size.

  3. I'm going to stick with the Buick LeSabre 3.8 turbo from 1978 being the earlier development version on the Buick GNX 3.8 turbo

  4. The posted link shows the natural year by year progression..

  Just saying.

  BTW I wasn't looking to buy it, just interested to see if it was original

  Cornering is like bringing a woman to climax. Jackie Stewart

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  Oct. 21, 2011 8:09 p.m. novaderrik Dork

  i don't know what a GTR is- sounds foreign to me, so i'm ignorant on that subject and i'll have to take your word for it..

  but the 78 turbo LeSabre isn't a direct ancestor to the GNX- it has an engine that eventually developed into the GNX engine, but it's a totally different car that was built on the bigger B body chassis- which would eventually become the Buick Roadmaster..

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  Oct. 21, 2011 11:00 p.m. aussiesmg SuperDork

  OK, so according to that, the 64 Mustang GT is not a descendant of the 2011 Mustang GT, hell it doesn't even have a chassis.

  You lose 5 man points for not knowing what a GTR is, heathen.

  

  

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