What do you think about a Foxbody Mustang as a rallycross car?
I'm betting that with a V6 engine, some better brakes and coil overs with taller springs, it might be fun. Probably not fast or competitive, but fun.
Discuss.
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Dec. 20, 2011 9:10 p.m. Brett_Murphy Dork
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Dec. 20, 2011 9:12 p.m. fritzsch Reader
I think any car could be fun with rallycross. If it could be done cheaply im sure it would be fun on a budget. might not be ideal but im always a fan of kinda out there ideas
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Dec. 20, 2011 9:15 p.m. Maroon92 SuperDork
Bone stock it would be fun. In fact, I have a set of rally tires on 5X114.3 steelies... How fun does it sound...(in other words, I'm in the market for a 5 lug fox...)
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Dec. 20, 2011 9:17 p.m. EvanB SuperDork
Make it a 5.0 V8 and then you're talking.
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Dec. 20, 2011 9:18 p.m. Aeromoto Reader
I'd bet it would be very competitive. 4 cyl Fox Mustangs are the bread and butter of dirt track mini-stock racing. If they can survive those beer pissing rednecks, they can survive anything.
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Dec. 20, 2011 9:19 p.m. EvanB SuperDork
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Dec. 20, 2011 9:21 p.m. former520 Reader
There are a couple Mustangs that have run (even a Camaro!). They can fit the smaller size BFG's for cheaper tires.
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Dec. 20, 2011 9:23 p.m. Brett_Murphy Dork
Foxbody V8s couldn't stop, I don't imagine dirt would help that much.
The reason I'm asking is there are a few 80s era Mustangs cheap on Craigslist. I'm betting I could pick up the GTwith no engine and a dirty interior for $250.
The dirt track setup is exactly why I was thinking this could be done very well for $1000.
(edit: and I'm thinking a V6 out of a Probe or late model Mustang- all aluminum, etc)
If brute force isn't solving your problem, you're not using enough.
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Dec. 20, 2011 9:26 p.m. HappyAndy HalfDork
Someone is, or was recently, successfully campaigning a fox body as a stage rally car in NASAs rally series. If a fox can handle stage rallying, rally X shouldn't be a problem. A fox Stang in the dirt sounds like a lot of fun to me.
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Dec. 20, 2011 10:15 p.m. Maroon92 SuperDork
Brett_Murphy wrote: Foxbody V8s couldn't stop, I don't imagine dirt would help that much.
Actually it will. It takes much much less pressure to lock up a wheel in dirt than it does on asphalt. Therefore, you need much less braking power, and much less thrust power to perform well in rallycross. Breaking traction is not a good thing...
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Dec. 21, 2011 7:27 a.m. White_and_Nerdy HalfDork
How much power do you really need to spin the rear wheels? Not a ton, so a V6 Stang oughta work fine, and be cheaper because they're generally less desirable.
- Justin
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Dec. 21, 2011 7:37 a.m. N Sperlo SuperDork
You could probably pick up a V6 mustang for cheap from a pregnant teenager.
- N. Sperlo -:-:- "Never take life seriously. No one ever gets out alive anyway." ~ ~ A strong tail wind can't hurt either...~~ K0HOF
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Dec. 21, 2011 7:53 a.m. Brett_Murphy Dork
In reply to Maroon92:
That is a great point. I'm kind of irritated it wasn't dawning on me last night. I guess I was more tired than I thought.
However, a V8 will still have more force of inertia working against it, and as it's been hinted at, the non-8s are cheapity-cheap-cheap.
If brute force isn't solving your problem, you're not using enough.
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Dec. 21, 2011 7:59 a.m. Sky_Render Reader
I'm going to rallycross my '93 Toyolla Wagon, so why the hell not?
I race a 2011 Mustang 5.0 around CORNERS!
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Dec. 21, 2011 8:17 a.m. N Sperlo SuperDork
Looking for an Escort or other similar vehicle to rallycross. Just putin' it out there.
- N. Sperlo -:-:- "Never take life seriously. No one ever gets out alive anyway." ~ ~ A strong tail wind can't hurt either...~~ K0HOF
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Dec. 21, 2011 8:22 a.m. griffin729 HalfDork
The one rallycross I've managed to make it to so far had a fox body V8 running in M2, just sayin'.
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Dec. 21, 2011 9:26 a.m. Tom Heath Web Manager
I think the only requirements to be competitive in Rallycross are:
1) A sincere lack of empathy for the car you're driving
2) The right tires
Seriously, there's no reason to think a Mustang couldn't play. There are rumors of taking our crapcan Lustang (Linctang? Mustoln?) to the next local event next month, and it's vaguely related to a Fox body car.
I tried drag racing, but kept blowing the apex for turn 2...
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Dec. 21, 2011 9:32 a.m. Aeromoto Reader
I'd go with a 2.3 4cyl and 5 speed. From what I've seen the 2.3s can make more power than most Ford V-6s, and there are tons and tons of speed parts and dirty tricks for them, and lots of way to hide the speed parts. One of the most impotant skills in mini stock dirt track racing is to sneak stuff past the tech man.
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Dec. 21, 2011 9:34 a.m. Jeff Dork
+1
Rallycross is all about finding grip. You do that by being smart. Having good tires helps. Everything else is just gravy and doesn't mean you'll be faster than the gal that knows how to find the grip.
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Dec. 21, 2011 10:10 a.m. The_Jed Reader
Mike Hurst and Rob Bohn successfully campaigned a Group 5 notchback in the 100 Acre Wood Rally. It had a "6.3 Liter" engine, a slightly poked and stroked 351 Windsor, that may have necessitated a judicious right foot but it didn't keep them from winning.
A Group 5 fox has been a dream of mine for years...
I am the Yeti.
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Dec. 21, 2011 10:11 a.m. The_Jed Reader
I am the Yeti.
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Dec. 21, 2011 11:16 a.m. singleslammer New Reader
Hey! Ive seen that car race!
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Dec. 21, 2011 11:43 a.m. ClemSparks SuperDork
I'm somewhat surprised to be the first to this thread with this: http://jalopnik.com/5658080/78-ford-station-wagon-wins-rallycross-2
It is what the thread title made me think of...
Clem
Yeah, well...sometimes even when it IS broken I don't fix it.
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Dec. 21, 2011 12:52 p.m. imirk Reader
If a Fox can do it.. where are all the P71 RallyX cars?!
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Dec. 21, 2011 1:01 p.m. Strike_Zero Dork
In reply to ClemSparks:
That is AWESOME!!
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