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  • CarKid1989

    June 1, 2011 5:22 p.m. CarKid1989 Dork

    I have been lookin around and a TON of Chevy Aveos are out there for under a grand--many under or around 500$. These cars are in good shape except for the fact that in every case, the motor is toast. I guess the timing belt really is the weak point in these lil motors.

    So assuming that you pick one up for cheap enough what are your options for engine swaps. I think it the car is Daewoo based (could be wrong there) and the motors share lineage with Hyundai engines. So options there.

    What engines/ trannys can you swap into these suckers? Not looking for a rocket but just something that can scoot and be a lil bit fun. Suspension?

    What swaps in between with other cars?

    Im not starting this thread to discuss how crappy the Aveo is....hell this is GRM where we glorify Yugos and sub $20XX cars.

    Thoughts? Info?

    Thanks

  • bluej

    June 1, 2011 5:26 p.m. bluej Dork

    N*?

  • Javelin

    June 1, 2011 5:47 p.m. Javelin SuperDork

    Where's the guy that had the DaeWoo project car in Korea? He can help!

    Forget swap though, I'd make one of those suckers rear-engine. They are even already kind of styled for it.

    Michael Pinto - 73 AMC Javelin 360 / GoKart / 86 944 Sport / 01 Grand Prix GT / 06 Mazda5 M5

  • DeadSkunk

    June 1, 2011 5:58 p.m. DeadSkunk HalfDork

    Apparently, the 2 litre from the Chevrolet Optra can be dropped in. You need everything though, engine ,all ancillaries,ecu, etc. Now, you aren't going to find an Optra in Ohio, but they were available in Canada.

    '99 Miata,'03 CooperS,'91 GTI 16V, '96 Astro,06 Scion Xb

  • Zomby woof

    June 1, 2011 6:03 p.m. Zomby woof SuperDork

    http://daewootech.com/forum/index.php

    You may be able to find some info there. There is also an Aveo forum, but there isn't a whole lot of modding, or tech expertise. I have ground some cams for them, and do have some excellent profiles. I'm thinking the usual stuff would work. The Sprongl's made their car work VERY well against this WRX

    AngryCorvair wrote: and that right there is why 90% of the time i think ZW is a berkeleying douchebag.

  • Zomby woof

    June 1, 2011 6:05 p.m. Zomby woof SuperDork

    Contact this guy, and let us know what he has

    http://daewootech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14140

    AngryCorvair wrote: and that right there is why 90% of the time i think ZW is a berkeleying douchebag.

  • pete240z

    June 1, 2011 6:08 p.m. pete240z SuperDork

    Where are these $500 Aveo's at?

    The cheapest Aveo listed on craigslist in Chicago is $3900. The rest are $8-10,000.

    http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/2413623812.html

    Datsun Pete

  • BoostedBrandon

    June 1, 2011 6:47 p.m. BoostedBrandon Reader

    Those cars suffered the same fate that many Yugos did. They were so cheap that many people considered them disposable, and opted not to change the timing belt and other maintainence. So come time for a rebuild after a timing SNAFU, people sometimes just salvaging them.

    Personally, I think one with a lil shot of spray would be fun until it blows up... again.

    Turbos are like ketchup, they make everything better!

  • June 1, 2011 6:51 p.m. 93gsxturbo HalfDork

    All I know is a light front end hit will total one. Happened to my coworker.

  • stuart in mn

    June 1, 2011 7:02 p.m. stuart in mn SuperDork

    I had an Aveo rental car once...I was underwhelmed.

  • Grtechguy

    June 1, 2011 7:21 p.m. Grtechguy SuperDork

    pete240z wrote: Where are these $500 Aveo's at? The cheapest Aveo listed on craigslist in Chicago is $3900. The rest are $8-10,000. http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/2413623812.html

    no kidding...cheapest I found was 1900... needs a little buffing

    http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/2347467587.html

    Would rather be riding my Bi-Valve lnterior Combustion Twice-Exhausted Bi-Axle Nitro-Cycle

  • Maroon92

    June 1, 2011 7:45 p.m. Maroon92 SuperDork

    I want to cheaply build one for B-spec racing...

    XBL GamerTag: bcbrownell Racing is the process of turning money into noise.

  • June 1, 2011 8:14 p.m. mndsm SuperDork

    I keep hearing rumors of Ecotec swaps in these. Never seen one documented... but that'd be one helluva little stormer.

    Go fast or go broke.

  • Maroon92

    June 1, 2011 8:27 p.m. Maroon92 SuperDork

    Zomby woof wrote: The Sprongl's made their car work VERY well against this WRX

    What CAN'T Sprongl do?

    XBL GamerTag: bcbrownell Racing is the process of turning money into noise.

  • novaderrik

    June 1, 2011 10:17 p.m. novaderrik Dork

    BoostedBrandon wrote: Those cars suffered the same fate that many Yugos did. They were so cheap that many people considered them disposable, and opted not to change the timing belt and other maintainence. So come time for a rebuild after a timing SNAFU, people sometimes just salvaging them. Personally, I think one with a lil shot of spray would be fun until it blows up... again.

    some dealers were giving them away for free if you bought a full size truck at sticker price. well, they were until GM found out about it and put a stop to it because they thought it cheapened the Aveo brand or something..

    i wonder how that worked from the financing end- did you have a lien on both vehicles, or was the Aveo legally yours free and clear?

  • neon4891

    June 1, 2011 10:27 p.m. neon4891 SuperDork

    stuart in mn wrote: I had an Aveo rental car once...I was underwhelmed.

    Reminds me of my Ex B-I-L. Had a Daewoo that died on him for some reason I forget. The shop couldn't get the parts to fix it. He swore up and down about he will never buy one again, ect. 2-3 years later he had a rental Aveo and loved it to the point of almost buying one.

    "Pat, you know that it is just another Daewoo with a bowtie on it"

    "What?"

  • turboswede

    June 1, 2011 10:42 p.m. turboswede SuperDork

    After renting one, I wouldn't bother.

    Steering was vaque, over boosted and lacking feel.

    Engine was noisy, transmission didn't want to shift very well.

    I love small, cheap cars, but they have to have a soul. They have to want to be driven hard and they have to reward that hard driving with a smile in my face. Not a frown.

    "I can pretty much guarantee that when you were in both lanes sideways you didn't have your turn signal on." - engineerd

  • ValuePack

    June 1, 2011 11:23 p.m. ValuePack Dork

    turboswede wrote: I love small, cheap cars, but they have to have a soul. They have to want to be driven hard and they have to reward that hard driving with a smile in my face. Not a frown.

    My long lost, obscenely rusty B12 Sentra base 2dr comes to mind. No front sway bar and zero options made every road a rally stage. I also had a '98 Tercel coupe that was an absolute blast(except in a straight line) in stock form with the only mods consisting of up'd tire pressure and a distinct lack of muffler.

    I long for the cheap front drivers of yesteryear that had a touch of personality... The Aveo/Versa generation isn't quite doing it for me.

  • neon4891

    June 1, 2011 11:29 p.m. neon4891 SuperDork

    ValuePack wrote:
    turboswede wrote: I love small, cheap cars, but they have to have a soul. They have to want to be driven hard and they have to reward that hard driving with a smile in my face. Not a frown.

    My long lost, obscenely rusty B12 Sentra base 2dr comes to mind. No front sway bar and zero options made every road a rally stage. I also had a '98 Tercel coupe that was an absolute blast(except in a straight line) in stock form with the only mods consisting of up'd tire pressure and a distinct lack of muffler.

    I long for the cheap front drivers of yesteryear that had a touch of personality... The Aveo/Versa generation isn't quite doing it for me.

    Looking forward to the Fiat 500

  • Zomby woof

    June 2, 2011 12:12 a.m. Zomby woof SuperDork

    I also had a '98 Tercel coupe that was an absolute blast(except in a straight line) in stock form with the only mods consisting of up'd tire pressure and a distinct lack of muffler.

    I don't know. My son had one of those (recommended by me), and it was, IMO, one of the worst cars I've ever driven, and that says a lot, because I've driven a lot of junk. The whole time he drove it, I worried about his welfare. That thing handled so poorly, I would characterize it as unsafe.

    I've done a lot since, to make up for that bad recommendation.

    AngryCorvair wrote: and that right there is why 90% of the time i think ZW is a berkeleying douchebag.

  • ValuePack

    June 2, 2011 12:47 a.m. ValuePack Dork

    Zomby woof wrote:
    I also had a '98 Tercel coupe that was an absolute blast(except in a straight line) in stock form with the only mods consisting of up'd tire pressure and a distinct lack of muffler.

    I don't know. My son had one of those (recommended by me), and it was, IMO, one of the worst cars I've ever driven, and that says a lot, because I've driven a lot of junk. The whole time he drove it, I worried about his welfare. That thing handled so poorly, I would characterize it as unsafe.

    I've done a lot since, to make up for that bad recommendation.

    Really? I loved mine, granted it had a very easy life before I did awful, awful things to it. What year? The '91-'94 cars were woefully under-suspended, but the later '95-98('99 in Canada) cars were heaps of fun with 185/60/14s('98/Blackhawk-only in the US), fresh struts/front end bits. Aftermarket swaybars and brakes for the JDM Starlet GT would've completed the car, IMO. I never had the cajones to find the handling limit on mine after mounting up Z rated 195/50/15s and dialing in some camber.

    I'd never want to be T-boned in one, mind...

  • poopshovel

    June 2, 2011 8:41 a.m. poopshovel SuperDork

    The answer is never Aveo.

    Build a man a fire, and he'll stay warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll stay warm for the rest of his life.

  • June 2, 2011 12:04 p.m. dmyntti New Reader

    In reply to poopshovel: As an Aveo owner (wife's car) I concure completely. The suspension is soft and moves around and is also quite weak. Every time the car clips a curb I have to replace some suspension part. I absolutely hate that car but we are to cheap to replace it. If you get one and need parts I have a complete 08 parts car that was rolled with 18,000 miles on it. I got it just for the spare engine and suspension parts. Did I mention the are slow and vague? I considered trying to autocroos it but decided it probably wouldn't hold up to the abuse.

  • Capt Slow

    June 2, 2011 12:14 p.m. Capt Slow Dork

    Years ago, Shortly after I wrecked my WRX I rented an Aveo to get around while I sorted out my car situation. Shortly after dropping my daughter off at school I was rear ended by a Korean lady in a Toyota 4 runner, it was a relatively light hit but it positively demolished the rear hatch.

    The story does have a happy ending, when I returned to the rental company they did not have many cars available, so they asked if I would be willing to rent the miata, of course they gave me a discount...

    Aveo horror stories aside, I say do it! The more hatefull the car the more fun it is to hop it up and watch people go, WTF?

    '96 Miata | '06 Mazdaspeed6 | '01 ford focus | '82 Mazda RX-7

  • June 2, 2011 12:41 p.m. mndsm SuperDork

    Capt Slow wrote: Aveo horror stories aside, I say do it! The more hatefull the car the more fun it is to hop it up and watch people go, WTF?

    You make a convincing argument there. It's probably why I'm consistently wanting to do bad things to Festivas. TERRIBLE cars in stock form IMO, but a little swap here and a little massage there, and we might have something.

    Go fast or go broke.

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