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  • aeronca65t

    May 28, 2009 2:52 a.m. aeronca65t Reader

    MG guru, John Twist is closing his famous ~University Motors~ in Ada, Mich.

    Anyone who has spent anytime around MGs and the "MG family" in the United States will realize that he has been a positive force for the marque for many, many years. He is often present as a technical speaker at various "Gathering of the Faithful" MG events throughout the country. I saw him at an MG event in ~Valley Forge, PA~ last year myself.

    His ~Technical Videos~ are some of the most useful stuff I've found on the internet (let's hope they don't get pulled down).

    Sad day.

  • André Rousseau

    May 28, 2009 6:26 a.m. André Rousseau Reader

    Holy crap. Love their videos.

    Sounds like regulations on shops got too tough to be bothered with.

    Still 34 yrs is nothing to laugh.

    I want to say well done, but never like seeing something ended like this.

    1968 Triumph GT6 Mk1

  • Tim Baxter

    May 28, 2009 8:00 a.m. Tim Baxter Online Editor

    Sad to hear it. John's been a guru since before most British cars were even considered classics.

  • Karl La Follette

    May 28, 2009 10:17 a.m. Karl La Follette Reader

    That is sad , I sure liked their new ads in CMS they are super clean and look cool . Crap

  • May 28, 2009 10:53 p.m. GSCReno New Reader

    Does anyone have any details as to why??? I'm very curious about the details... What an absolute drag. Cheers, Scott

  • Jensenman

    May 29, 2009 7:45 a.m. Jensenman SuperDork

    Man, I hate to hear that. I have used his tech tips more than once over the years.

  • Karl La Follette

    May 29, 2009 9:32 a.m. Karl La Follette Reader

    http://www.universitymotorsltd.com/ It red somewhere that per capita the area of the shop had the highest amount of mg s in the country when he started . My guess would be internet savvy DIY car buffs and cheap ebay parts and C Lists plus wholesale catolog warehouses . I would also just guessing economic whammy .

  • foxtrapper

    May 29, 2009 10:02 a.m. foxtrapper SuperDork

    GSCReno wrote: Does anyone have any details as to why???

    University Motors will cease fulltime business on Wednesday, July 1 st , 2009 , after 34+ years of service to the MG community. When our Governess promised in her 2006 State of the State Address that "In five years, you're going to be blown away by the strength and diversity of Michigan 's transformed economy," little did we imagine that it would be our own business that would be demolished in the ensuing economic storm.

  • Karl La Follette

    May 29, 2009 3:30 p.m. Karl La Follette Reader

    John Twist posted the following on the MG experience MGB forum:

    "I do appreciate, truly, the outpouring of concern. Allow me to offer some of my standard lines and then give a slightly more detailed explanation. 1) We've been on life support for several years and it was time to pull the plug. 2) As a businessman, understand that I find myself on the right of the political spectrum. Two branches of the Federal government are firmly in the hands of the liberals, the national economy is in tough shape, the Michigan economy is in horrible condition, my business must close, and my wife has cancer -- other years have started on much better notes.

    There are only several "large" MG shops left in this country. The others are located in major metropolitan centers; several in very warm states. As long as the economy was doing well, MG owners were willing and able to bring their cars to us -- in this remote, northern location -- for repair and/or restoration. I cannot begin to tell you how many of our customers are out of work or fearful of losing their jobs. For those who have already retired, they've seen their savings accounts lose half their value. These are very, very difficult times.

    Our shop looks like an automotive repair center -- we have hoists, we change exhausts and brakes, do tune-ups.... but we're REALLY in the entertainment business. No one needs an MG and MG owners do not need to have their MG repaired - they can wait until next year! We were after the same dollars that one would spend to go to a movie or dinner, spend landscaping one's lawn, or taking an excursion to Aruba. These are uncertain times, to say the least, and either the entertainment dollars are simply not there, or MG owners are holding back. There is business, certainly, but not enough to support the size plant we have.

    Some have asked, "Why don't you work on modern cars to supplement your business?" Quite frankly, I don't like working on cars -- I do like working on MGs. Go figure. We have performed line service, bench service, and restoration. We have hosted the largest MG gatherings outside of England (save the all register events in 1996 (I was chairman of that one) 2001 and 2006) with 550 MGs on the field! We have held technical seminars for a quarter of a century with about 1500 "graduates." I host an hour long call-in technical hour every weekday. I answer (erratically and in batches) technical emails that are then printed in various publications. Sometimes I write stand alone technical articles. I have a technical book (temporarily out of print). I enjoy working with MGs and the MG community --anyone who has viewed the YouTube videos knows this.. This decision to close was not personal, it was business. If we were all twenty years younger; if the business climate in Michigan showed signs of recovery; if we were all in good health -- we would labor on. We did so in the past when times were tough. Times are much, much tougher now. There is simply not enough business to cover our expenses. Two years ago we about broke even; last year we lost money; this year portended to be catastrophic. We had no option.

    Add into these difficulties that my wife, Caroline, my business partner of 32 years, has cancer. She had 2/3 of her right lung removed last July, has undergone whole brain radiation, and is on a second course of chemotherapy. She is 55; I am 60.

    My intention, today, is to continue to provide bench service and technical information. I will be in Maine the 6/7 of June; Breckenridge at the NAMGBR event later in June; at Mad Dogs on July 12th at the Gilmore Museum near Kalamazoo; at the Central PA British Car event in Altoona the weekend after Labor Day. I'm not hanging my hat up yet!"

  • David S. Wallens

    June 5, 2009 12:59 p.m. David S. Wallens Editorial Director

    Personally, I'm bummed. I visited the shop for the first time just recently. Not only does John know a lot about MGs, but he has a ton of parts.

    Yes, we now have signatures

  • Karl La Follette

    June 6, 2009 11:07 a.m. Karl La Follette Reader

    http://www.universitymotorsltd.com/news-blog.html video shot friday may 29 th

  • ronbros

    June 21, 2009 8:24 p.m. ronbros New Reader

    Brother life can sometimes suck!!

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