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  • teamilluminata

    Oct. 3, 2011 2:51 p.m. teamilluminata New Reader

    Time for an update. Been doing a bit of driving and a bit of maintenance. Car has been behaving itself lately too. Took it on a 3 hour round trip to Northern Ohio a few weeks ago:

    Though it was daylight I ran it with the headlights on both ways as a test. Someone, perhaps on here, had mentioned how the headlight switch can get really warm and sometimes can melt the connector behind the switch. I thought, with Fall approaching, it might be an idea to see if they would survive and indeed they did but, I must say, the switch did get alarmingly warm. In fact I would go as far as to describe it as "hot"! So when I got back I put it on my list to investigate the wiring with a view to maybe adding some relays.

    It was during this process that I decided my main beams weren't working as I couldn't get the inner-most set of lights to come on. Later, with the car in the shop I could clearly see the main beams change from low beam so was a little puzzled. Once I got the lights off the car I realized that it has dual filamet H4s or something and they are wired up and work but the innermost high beams are not wired up wihch is why I didn't see them come on and why I thought they weren't working. In the daylight I couldn't see the H4s change to main beam. This must all be a consequence of the Euro headlight conversion the car underwent sometime in its past. So, I am going to rewire the headlights and all main beams to function using the headlight switches to control relays powered directly from the battery. I think I can create a harness for this that will just plug into the existing wiring without doing any cutting or splicing too. We will see.

    I did discover that the headlight adjusters are missing too. Apparantly these were automatic motorized jobbies on the Euro cars but manual ones can be used too. Anyone shed any light on this?

    I also discovered a bit of rust behind the right side headlight. I'll have to get a bit of stop-rust on that later.

    While I had the lights out I thought it a good idea to have a look at the air filter as it seems impossible to get at it from above. Look:

    I manged to pry the lid off enough, but just enough, to ease the filter out.

    It was really tight and the clips were hard to reach. In fact it looks like the previous owner managed to pinch one of the pleats between the lid and housing last time it was replaced. Probably wasn;t sealing too well I bet:

    Turns out it has a washable K&N filter so I washed it, oiled it and put it back

    After checking the filter I thought it might be a good idea to check the spark plugs especially as they are so easy to get at. hey were all in pretty good shape but were of the triple electrode type from Bosch. I thought these were a bit hokey so went in pursuit of some replacements only to be told that these are the correct ones the car came with. Is ths right?

    I tried the new narrow contact rotor arm on the run to Ohio. The car ran fine but didn't feel as powerful so I have swapped back the wider one. Feels better again. I have found a Porsche part number for the wide rotor arm and endeavoring to acquire one through our local Porsche dealer. The pld w one is not in bad shape but a new one can't hurt.

    My brand new gas cap came in too and proved successful during the Ohio trip. I can now run a full tank withought is pouring down the side of the car.

    On the way back through Canada last week I swung by the previous previous owners shop for a visit. I had hoped to be in the quattro but those plans fell through but still, it was good to visit with Rob and share stories of the car. I snagged a few original parts to such as the quad lights and ac parts. perhaps I'll put them on one day.Thanks Rob.

    I'm trying to drive the car as much as possible rather than working on it as winter is approaching but I still have a few things I want to do sooner rather than later such as the headlight relays, rotor arm, breather hose and radio though I must say I am enjoying my 80s Duran Duran albums lately.

  • OFracing

    Oct. 6, 2011 8:07 p.m. OFracing Reader

    In reply to Rupert:

    Rupert, I think a Miaita is a great car. It's fast, handles well and is easy to upgrade/maintain. What I don't like about them is when a pack of them all get on the same race track. The current rule sets, at least in the SCCA, are designed to get keep the cars cost effective and evenly matched. They've over achieved on both fronts. There are now Matias in just about every class of production car, SM, SM2, IT, FP and GTL. The cars are so evenly matched that the only way the mediocre drivers can get by another car is to push them out of the way. (too much NASCAR mentality). When they race with me in groups of two or three (FP, GTL mostly) I have no problem with them, most of the drivers respect the other cars around them and we all have fun. When they combine them into large packs, (SM, SM2, IT) you won't ever see a race stay green the entire event, a few cars are always going to run into each other, gather up other cars and ruin everyones day.

    Rubbin isn't racing, it's lack of car control, and unfortunately, it occurs too often when a group of Matias get together.

    Don't get me started on Spec Racer Fords, almost as bad for the same reasons.

    mike

    63 Spitfire

  • teamilluminata

    Oct. 7, 2011 9:34 a.m. teamilluminata New Reader

    What about Spec UR quattros?

  • teamilluminata

    Oct. 31, 2011 8:41 a.m. teamilluminata New Reader

    Not much URQ action lately, mostly because we bought this:

    Which means having to fix up this :):

    so we can sell it :(

    I did find an almost new radio on eBay though :) Thanks Artur.

    to replace the bling thing that's in it now:

    I may have an opportunity to drive the car this week as a friend of mine wants to barter a drywall job for a drive in the car! Not a bad deal hey?

  • ddavidv

    Nov. 2, 2011 6:05 a.m. ddavidv SuperDork

    For music in my CGT I used the standard (crappy, BTW) oem radio but installed a CD changer in the back. I mounted it to a removable panel that slid into the sunroof holder, so no holes drilled.

    Awww...I could've had a falcon!

  • teamilluminata

    Nov. 26, 2011 7:33 p.m. teamilluminata New Reader

    Took the UR quattro out for one last blast today before I put it away for the winter. Strange concept for me this. Not used to it at all. Car performed flawlessly again and was a joy to drive :) I took it to say "Au revoir" to Francois' URQ which is off to Maryland then home to say "Bonjour" to our new A3. Not much family resemblance here IMHO.

    After this little rendevous I filled it with gas, added a bottle of Stabil, took it back to the shop and gave it a good wash. Tomorrow I will wax it and put it away :( As it will be down for a fair few months I intend to do some serious work on it. Stay tuned for developments

  • teamilluminata

    Jan. 3, 2012 8:01 p.m. teamilluminata New Reader

    I tried putting the new-old radio in before I put the car away but got flummoxed by the unusual (to me) mini DIN speaker sockets on the back of the unit (top left)

    Apparantly the plugs that go into them look like these:

    But of course, mine are long gone, replaced by some fatter, after market speaker wire. I did get the thing to power up and make noise by touching bare wires to the terminals so that's a good sign.

    We had a bit of fun before we put the car away, test fitted an 18" BRAID Winrace A off a customers A3. I think it looks, er, interesting. Offset is all wrong and the tire is an inch to tall but it looks kind of cool IMHO

    HEY, WHERES IT GONE !!

    Ah, there it is. I think this is called "hibernating"

    I also been doing a bit of "aquisition" on the parts front. Snagged this huge workshop manual and lug bolt covers from eBay UK.

    Did these cars come with lug nut covers? Lug nut heads are certainly ugly affairs. Still need a removal tool though.

    My sister made me this lovely canvas of the car for Christmas

    and then I bought myself this to get me through the long, dark winter nights

  • teamilluminata

    March 23, 2012 6:32 a.m. teamilluminata Reader

    And so it begins, pre-season refurb. Just a few items to take care of before spring gets going (even more):

    Detail heat stuck on Ps fluid-replace Relay head lights & Main beams Ignition rotor arm Perished breather hose Check timing Radio reception Radio replace Upper strut mounts front & rear Rear brake lines Replace coolant Replce ball joints Lower control arm bushings Dampers Timing belt cover reinstall Washer aim/function Aim lights-adjusters Gear box play, mounts? Wipers slow Cold starting exhaust leak *oil Leaks

    Perhaps I should have gotten started sooner.

    First task, finish putting an original radio in. I found some old style speaker connectors on eBay and spliced them into the aftermarket speaker wires, Works too even with the tape adapter playing from my Iphone but only 80s music comes out. Rear speakers appear to be blown. No bass but front work fine.

    Next I turned my attention to rebuilding the suspension. Soaked all the fasteners with PB Blaster. Started by removing the front anti-roll bar.

    Maybe I didn't allow enough time for the PB Blaster to work as I broke one of the end links. Where can I get a new one?

    I felt this was enough progress for the first evening especially as I am now fully committed to replacing the suspension components rather than driving the car round in its compromised condition. More to follow..........

  • teamilluminata

    March 24, 2012 9:07 a.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Slammed it:

    Everything in the front suspension is loose and ready to come off:

    Except this:

    Non of my pullers or presses could get a purchase on it. I tried heat and hammers to no avail. Need more tools.

  • AndreGT6

    March 24, 2012 9:22 a.m. AndreGT6 Dork

    You need one of these.

    1968 Triumph GT6 Mk1 & 72 FIAT 124 Spider

  • teamilluminata

    March 24, 2012 6:06 p.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Something from this box should work

    Like this perhaps

    BINGO!

    All gone

    Now I have to tear this apart.

    The parts haul so far

    I also discovered that my right side engine mount is collapsed so that will have to be replaced too. And, my right side hub is very loose in int housing. Is that normal or should I be doing wheel bearings too?

  • teamilluminata

    March 25, 2012 5:50 p.m. teamilluminata Reader

    More unbolting today.

    I was advised to remove the tie rod ends so I could free up the adjusters as I will need an alignment when I'm done.

    So I did, then sprayed it with PB Blaster.

    This is where it bolts to the rack. Interesting arrangement.

    I took a gearbox mount off to change it but it looked new so I bolted it back on and crossed it off my list.

    Have an exhaust leak from here. Had to cut the bolts with a hacksaw blade. Going to need a new donut.

    Drained the coolant and flushed the system.

    Removed the heater valve as I have constant heat. Seems to close though. I think I will replace it anyway.

    Monday I shop for parts and do my taxes.

  • teamilluminata

    March 26, 2012 3:11 p.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Where do I find the UR quattro Blue strut mounts in the US? Can/should I use 034 Motorsport versions?

    and wheel bearings? 75mm or 82mm?

    How do I make sure my engine mounts are shot? The right one is such a PITA that I really don't want to replace it unless I have too.

  • teamilluminata

    March 27, 2012 4:38 p.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Disassembled both front struts today. Wasn't too hard.

    The only problem is the free Bilsteins I have aren't going to fit. They are off a later model. So, I need some inserts. Koni or Bilstein. Can't seem to find them in stock anywhere. Anyone have any sitting around?

    Need quite a few parts before I can put this thing back together. namely:

    Blue upper mounts Dampers, Koni preferred Front 86-2086 sport 2-6 weeks Rear 86-2087 sport in stock at Koni Front Strut bellows End link Wheel bearings heater valve coolant G12 or regular green stuff? Exhaust donut

  • teamilluminata

    March 31, 2012 6:36 a.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Koni inserts are on their way from a fellow URQ owner. Thanks Martin. I've found nice German top mounts and wheel bearings and most of the other parts I need. Still looking for the anti roll bar bushings and I'm not sure if I want to spend over $200 on an OE ball joint.

    Took my struts and control arms to see my Freind Mat at MCE Tuning. He pressed out the wheel bearings for me no problem.

    Old worn out bearing on the floor.

    Inner race stayed on the hub! Mat got ot off.

    Then cleaned up the wheel bearing hosings so the new bearings will go in nicely.

    Next I start working on getting the control arm bushings out.

  • teamilluminata

    April 2, 2012 6:04 p.m. teamilluminata Reader

    With parts sourced over the weekend it's time to tackle the rear suspension but I'm clearly not going to get at these from the trunk. Not with an impact gun anyway.

    Had to take the back seats out. Looks like a race car :)

    Had to use my bendy and impact gun to get the strut nuts off.

    Everything loose, legs hanging. Had to use the ball joint tool kit again but now I'm an expert they just fell off.

    My quattro is now "legless"!

    The wheel bearings are better than the fronts but I think I'm going to change them anyway. Ball joints and tie rods seem ok so they can stay. Not excited about removing the strut inserts on these though. A lot rustier looking than the fronts were :( The left handbrake cable looks a little worse for wear but I have a pair on the way.

  • teamilluminata

    April 4, 2012 7:23 a.m. teamilluminata Reader

    I got the rear struts apart yesterday. They were not as bad as I thought. I held the nut in a vice, applied heat and hit the steering arm with a hammer till it came loose.

    People have suggested powder coating all the suspension components while they are off the car. I have been reluctant to do this as I am trying to not restore the car but maintain its originality. However, looking at the surface rust on the rear struts I feel I must at least POR15 the springs, rear struts and top hats just to preserve them.

    With that in mind I degreased them with Marine Clean yesterday after removing loose rust with a wire brush.

    Today, if I get chance, I will prep them and paint them with POR15 black.

  • teamilluminata

    April 4, 2012 8:55 p.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Started the POR15 rust inhibition project today. Prepped with POR prep stuff.

    First coat of POR15 applied. Of course I managed to get some on my hands and face.

  • teamilluminata

    April 6, 2012 6:33 a.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Huge parts haul today. Coolant, front wheel bearings, top mounts, handbrake cables. Control arm bushings etc.

    I think I may be starting put the car back together. After installing the new heater control valve I added coolant and put the steering arms back in the car today.

    After that I dropped off the control arms and bushings at a friend's so he can attack them with his new press.

    Have a good weekend.

  • teamilluminata

    April 9, 2012 6:56 a.m. teamilluminata Reader

    It's KONI time in the shop this week!

    Time to start putting this car back together but one question to resolve before I do that is where to set the adjustable KONI inserts. I like a responsive ride, my other car's a race car, but don't want to ruin the ride quality especially as you have to take these buggers out again to adjust them. So where to begin, #1, #2, #5?. Anyone have any experience with these?

  • teamilluminata

    April 9, 2012 6:49 p.m. teamilluminata Reader

    I started to re-assemble the front struts this afternoon. Pressed in the wheel bearings.

    Pressed the hub on and inserted the Koni inserts.

    Need to decide on settings before I install the springs. Currently on 2 out of 5. Anyone know where these go?

    The POR15 was a bit glossy so I went over the top hats and springs with some flat black.

    I also re-installed the control arms and new right side ball joint. If I get chance tomorrow I'll install the springs then put the front struts back on the car!

  • teamilluminata

    April 10, 2012 7:54 p.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Semi productive day today. I was hoping to have the car back on its wheels, maybe even driving but alas, I was thwarted by a wrong part. Seems I have a ball joint for a 4000 instead. Bugger!

    Still, I got all four struts assembled and the Konis set. I went with 1 turn on the fronts, 1.5 in the rear. If I don't like it they are easy to adjust.....NOT!

    Installed all but the right front strut on the car. Even that is technically on the car. Just hanging from the upper mount for now. I ordered a TSW ball joint from Rock Auto as a back up. OE versions are very pricey. Tomorrow I will search locally for a decent one. If I can't find one I'll wait for the TSW one. That's what's already on the left side anyway.

    Hopefully, if I get time tomorrow I'll drop the rear on the ground and tighten all the bolts, put the rear seats back in and maybe, if I can find some, replace the blown rear speakers. I guess I could also drop and tighten the front left too. I can also install the new catalytic converter gasket and cinch that up so I can start the engine and burp the coolant. Then an alignment and we drive it. Damn, wish I had a ball joint.

  • teamilluminata

    April 12, 2012 6:31 a.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Looks like a car again. At least this side does.

    This side's still missing a leg!

    So, thirty years ago a small, select group of Audi engineers sat down together to eat pizza and hatch a cunning plan. "I know..." proffers one particularly sneaky engineer "...... let's build a 4wd turbo car that looks just like the Coupe GT but uses non of its parts. NONE. This will really mess with their heads in about thirty years time. HAH!"

    See, it wasn't about rally at all. It was just a German practical joke!

  • teamilluminata

    April 13, 2012 10:59 a.m. teamilluminata Reader

    It's funny what you'll do while your waiting for parts. I decided to have a look at the aftermarket speakers on the rear parcel shelf. They are ugly and sound really tinny.

    Oh my! How do we improve on this situation? What is the OE configuration like? Anyone have an original parcel shelf? With speakers?

    I tried some other speakers in there but they were too bg and still sounded tinny. Maybe my acoustic issue lies somewhere else.

    Still no sign of another (probably wrong) balljoint so I decided to pull out the passenger seat. Why? Severe case of wobble-bottom due to suspected worn slider bushings. BTW easiest seat extraction ever!

    Or non existent slider bushings.

    Oh, here it is. Hiding in the slider rail. Yuk.

    and here's the new ones I surreptitiously picked up off eBay. Yes, I did buy two sets but the driver's seat is not so bad just yet. maybe, when my wrong balljoint gets here I will decide it is aweful and swap them too.

    Here, that's better.

    Then, really desperate, I downloaded this to play through my new OE stereo.

    [LEFT]AUTOBAHN (Kraftwerk) - self made music video - YouTube[/LEFT]

    I wanna go for a drive :(

  • teamilluminata

    April 14, 2012 10:16 a.m. teamilluminata Reader

    Look what Postman Pat brought me yesterday.

    It fits too!

    OK, I know, it's not OE and will probably wear out in about 10,000 miles but it's a tenth of the price!

    So here it is, finally, back on all fours.

    So i fired up the quattro and backed it out to get it up to temperature. I needed to burp the cooling system and test my new heater valve. Heater valve works but still runs a little warm at full cold. It is not closing fully though it did on the bench. I think a small cable adjustment should take care of things.

    Then I took it out for a test drive. I must say the Kraftwerk worked perfectly. Exactly as described. New suspension's not bad either. Initially the new dampers seemed crashy over small bumps but soon settled down. I was a little surprised that the dampers did not feel stiffer as I set them around half their range. I couldn't really get on it though as the front anti roll bar is still off and I only have an eyeball alignment. I'm sure I'm going to be very happy with it once it's aligned and fully together next week.

    I put the old speakers back in place but didn't reconnect them. The front are fine for now. Would love to get a replacement parcel shelf and original speakers though. Anyone?

    I also installed the new cat gasket/donut but I think it's still blowing a bit :(

    So I'm done for now. There's quite a few things on my original hit list that I didn't do yet and a few new ones but it's time to drive this thing.

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